Comments on: NAHB responds to study of Prince George's County sprinkler study. Faults study for not including smoke alarms. http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/ Fire & EMS news from the Nation's Capital, the Nation & the world Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:21:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11569 Anonymous Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:00:43 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11569 So who's right Dave? NAHB uses NFPA #'s Bill uses Maryland numbers . . .<br /><br />My bet is the numbers reported by MD SFMO are right and NAHB just found a number that works for them, then say any other number is inaccurate. So who's right Dave? NAHB uses NFPA #'s Bill uses Maryland numbers . . .

My bet is the numbers reported by MD SFMO are right and NAHB just found a number that works for them, then say any other number is inaccurate.

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11568 Anonymous Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:45:55 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11568 I've never seen a smoke alarm suppress a fire- they usually are found melted handing on the wall or the remnants lying on the floor. A properly designed and operating sprinkler system can supress a fire from expanding and in some cases actually extinguish the fire in its early stages. <br /><br />The home builders are associating "warning" (which can be ignored or defeated by a simple thing such as neglecting to replace a battery) vs. a sprinkler system that can actually slow down the progress of any fire that starts (or even extinguish it in some cases.)<br /><br />With the cutbacks in available fire suppression services in many communties, you would thing that this early suppression effort would enhance life safety and minimize overall property damage (and keep taxpaying properties on the community's property tax roles!) I've never seen a smoke alarm suppress a fire- they usually are found melted handing on the wall or the remnants lying on the floor. A properly designed and operating sprinkler system can supress a fire from expanding and in some cases actually extinguish the fire in its early stages.

The home builders are associating "warning" (which can be ignored or defeated by a simple thing such as neglecting to replace a battery) vs. a sprinkler system that can actually slow down the progress of any fire that starts (or even extinguish it in some cases.)

With the cutbacks in available fire suppression services in many communties, you would thing that this early suppression effort would enhance life safety and minimize overall property damage (and keep taxpaying properties on the community's property tax roles!)

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11567 Anonymous Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:20:09 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11567 perhaps we should look to DC to get their impression of sprinklers in a fire situation.. wait no , forget it. perhaps we should look to DC to get their impression of sprinklers in a fire situation.. wait no , forget it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11566 Anonymous Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:55:43 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11566 The insurance savings is/was running about 10-15% which is a paltry amount considering how much the ins co saves when compared to a full blown house fire. Of Course, the insurance companies aren't known for giving money back either The insurance savings is/was running about 10-15% which is a paltry amount considering how much the ins co saves when compared to a full blown house fire. Of Course, the insurance companies aren't known for giving money back either

]]> By: dlewis533 http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11565 dlewis533 Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:06:18 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11565 Dave,<br /><br />I think the best comparison of smoke alarms versus sprinklers comes from Ed Mann, Fire Commissioner from Pennsylvania - If I am standing next to you and your coast catches on fire, which would you rather I do - tell you your coat is on fire (smoke alarms) or toss a glass of water on you and put the fire out (sprinklers)? What level of protection do you want for your family? Dave,

I think the best comparison of smoke alarms versus sprinklers comes from Ed Mann, Fire Commissioner from Pennsylvania – If I am standing next to you and your coast catches on fire, which would you rather I do – tell you your coat is on fire (smoke alarms) or toss a glass of water on you and put the fire out (sprinklers)? What level of protection do you want for your family?

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11564 Anonymous Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:46:59 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11564 I dunno, maybe I'm getting old. But, if I have a sprinkler going off and getting me wet, would that NOT be an "alarm"? I dunno, maybe I'm getting old. But, if I have a sprinkler going off and getting me wet, would that NOT be an "alarm"?

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11563 Anonymous Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:17:54 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11563 What about the fatality in the P section of Bowie this year? That was a spriklered house! What about the fatality in the P section of Bowie this year? That was a spriklered house!

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11562 Anonymous Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:15:17 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11562 NAHB's response is not surprising. As long as no lives are lost, but the house has to be replaced, so in NAHB view, they will be "building another home." Remember, follow the money. NAHB's response is not surprising. As long as no lives are lost, but the house has to be replaced, so in NAHB view, they will be "building another home." Remember, follow the money.

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11561 Anonymous Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:51:37 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11561 Thank God for this code cause the fire department is absolutely terrible!<br /><br />Mr. Natural Thank God for this code cause the fire department is absolutely terrible!

Mr. Natural

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms/comment-page-1/#comment-11560 Anonymous Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:34:42 +0000 http://statter911.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/nahb-responds-to-study-of-prince-georges-county-sprinkler-study-faults-study-for-not-including-smoke-alarms#comment-11560 Dave,<br /><br />If you had identical $500,000.00 next door to each other. What is the difference in PG County, in the homeowners insurance, for 1 home with and 1 without sprinkler system.<br />I'd love to know the PG county estimated insurance savings attirbuted to this mandate. I'm sure its substantial. Dave,

If you had identical $500,000.00 next door to each other. What is the difference in PG County, in the homeowners insurance, for 1 home with and 1 without sprinkler system.
I'd love to know the PG county estimated insurance savings attirbuted to this mandate. I'm sure its substantial.

]]>