Thanks to Firefighter Close Calls for finding the video above from Unicoi County, Tennessee. It is pretty self explanatory.
The video was taken at a church fire this morning on Chestoa Pike. That story is below.
Also on STATter911 …
- Helmet-cam: Garage fire in Wilson County, Tennessee. – November 13, 2011
- Early video: House fire in Cleveland, Tennessee. – November 25, 2010
- UPDATE: Explosion at Oakland, Tennessee munitions plant. Firefighter reported injured. Kinematics Research worker dead. – January 5, 2011
- Must see video: FDNY close call on ambulance fire in Kew Gardens. – December 30, 2010
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Hmmmm no back up man
THE DRIVER AND THE IC ARE THE LUCKIEST FIREFIGHTERS AT THE SCENE – IF THE CIVILIAN HAD BEEN INJURED OR KILLED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THEIR FAULT.
Don’t think thats the only issue at that fires, blue jeans are back !
I’m not going to say the driver of the tanker is blameless, but what the heck was that civilian doing standing around in the middle of the incident scene, and not paying attention? The driver should have had a ‘momback watching him, and the civilian should have kept his wits about himself.
Doesn’t anyone know what a backup alarm is any more? The tanker clearly had one operating (that would be the beeping noise you hear), yet the civilian walked behind it anyway. Add to that the fact that he wasn’t even looking toward the big, red, MOVING fire truck and I think the video would have exonerated the firefighters before any reasonable juror.
When operating my own car in parking lots, I often have to stop backing up for people who walk or drive right behind an already moving vehicle.
moto-tricycle your obviously not a big city firemen. civilians walk alll over the damn place, trip on hose sit on apparatus. dont blame the civilian they are clueless. the firemen are “suppppposed” to be smarter, i know that askin alot and clearly to much in this case.
There should have been someone backing the driver. Where was the water supply officer during this? And also if fire crews could not watch the scene what about law enforcement? There is a lot in that few seconds of footage that I saw wrong with the scene. BUT you can only work with what you have at hand.
I’m with Dave S. Why are we blaming the EO?
Idiot is not paying attention to anything around him and it’s the EO’s fault?
Where does personal responsibility come into play?
I saw a tender moving a bit quickly for an emergency scene and a clearly careless civilian. i remember the old days of shuttles and not having a backer when dropping into a tank system, but I did it slowly and carefully. I was taught that no one gets your water if you crash.
Other items on the video need their own posts entirely.
William Zooker says,
Where was the back up person? Where I work and volly you do not move a rig in reverse without a spotter. You WILL be charged whether you get a paycheck or not! Wake up folks!
The driver had the big eye and so did the civilian. There was no need, the building was a total loss. Embarrassing!
Unfortunately, staffing probably had a lot to do with the scenario. Five departments and twenty-six firemen to fight a fire this size is a problem of it’s own, hence no back-up man, no water supply officer, etc.
You can’t always have a back up person. In my department, the tanker usually only has a driver and there is only a driver of an engine at the drop site. They might have been a little busy. But we do have a policy in which we are “supposed” to use a person and if not, walk around the apparatus, kick on all the lights, sound the horn and then back up.
No SPOTTER?!
Backing a “bit” fast.
Civilian walking around the scene.
Bad all the way around. Thank goodness he wasn`t injured. Take it as a learning experiance and move forward.
It’s real easy to blame budget cuts, personnel shortages and even the citizen, but none of it is going to help you live with the pain of killing someone’s loved one. What if it was a child? Oh and by the way, that citizen was hearing and mentally impaired (according to news story on TV).
As unfair as it may seem, it is always the driver’s responsibility to watch out or your department will PAY OUT! Worse yet you live with the guilt. Get out of your apparatus, bring an abled bodied citizen over and teach them how to be a backer real quick. There are always people standing around to help if there are no fire or law enforcement personnel available. Trust me if you hit and injure or kill someone you will relive that moment over and over again and wish you had. Just remember use due diligence.
We are here to help, not hurt people. Deputy Chief/SD