Comments on: Rochester fire kills man & two young girls. Firefighters couldn’t get to the apartment they were in. Fireground audio, video & pictures. http://statter911.com/2009/12/19/rochester-fire-kills-man-two-young-girls-firefighters-couldnt-get-to-the-apartment-they-were-in-fireground-audio-video-pictures/ Fire & EMS news from the Nation's Capital, the Nation & the world Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:53:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Bill http://statter911.com/2009/12/19/rochester-fire-kills-man-two-young-girls-firefighters-couldnt-get-to-the-apartment-they-were-in-fireground-audio-video-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-14189 Bill Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:14:24 +0000 http://statter911.com/?p=5707#comment-14189 Vern, what makes you think those are 1 3/4? The lines I see in the video do have fog nozzles on them, but appear to be 2 1/2 or greater. There may be a couple 1 3/4s out there, but the majority appears to be larger lines. Just because it has a fog nozzle doesn't make it 1 3/4 or smaller Vern, what makes you think those are 1 3/4? The lines I see in the video do have fog nozzles on them, but appear to be 2 1/2 or greater. There may be a couple 1 3/4s out there, but the majority appears to be larger lines. Just because it has a fog nozzle doesn’t make it 1 3/4 or smaller

]]> By: Anonymous http://statter911.com/2009/12/19/rochester-fire-kills-man-two-young-girls-firefighters-couldnt-get-to-the-apartment-they-were-in-fireground-audio-video-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-14110 Anonymous Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:57:27 +0000 http://statter911.com/?p=5707#comment-14110 lots of water just not getting good acess with it. lots of water just not getting good acess with it.

]]> By: Aggressive Ops Only http://statter911.com/2009/12/19/rochester-fire-kills-man-two-young-girls-firefighters-couldnt-get-to-the-apartment-they-were-in-fireground-audio-video-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-14109 Aggressive Ops Only Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:18:54 +0000 http://statter911.com/?p=5707#comment-14109 You're absolutely right Vern. 1 3/4" attack lines are a ridiculous idea. As evidenced in this video, they are terribly ineffective. What on earth were they thinking. I think it's time fir a policy change in Rochester. Once again, I applaud your protest against these worthless handlines. I would have used 1 1/2" lines also! It's crazy how great minds think alike. Thank you for your support Vern. Never forget, 1 1/2" and balls, that's how fires go out! You’re absolutely right Vern. 1 3/4″ attack lines are a ridiculous idea. As evidenced in this video, they are terribly ineffective. What on earth were they thinking. I think it’s time fir a policy change in Rochester. Once again, I applaud your protest against these worthless handlines. I would have used 1 1/2″ lines also! It’s crazy how great minds think alike. Thank you for your support Vern. Never forget, 1 1/2″ and balls, that’s how fires go out!

]]> By: Vern http://statter911.com/2009/12/19/rochester-fire-kills-man-two-young-girls-firefighters-couldnt-get-to-the-apartment-they-were-in-fireground-audio-video-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-14095 Vern Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:24:43 +0000 http://statter911.com/?p=5707#comment-14095 This video depicts another fire department that believes that 1.75" attack lines with fog nozzles are appropriate for combat against a heavy fire condition. The video clearly shows that these weak, broken fog streams are having no effect on the fire. It certainly raises the question as to whether or not properly supplied interior attack lines operated aggressively in the early stages of the fire would have prevented the fire from reaching the stage that is seen in the video. I would expect a much better performance from a full time career department. There is no excuse for them not to be 'at the top of their game' at all times. After all, it's not as if they have to juggle their fire service training around their career and family obligation (as volunteers must)... THIS IS THEIR CAREER ... they should be kicking the fire's butt ... instead they are not even in the game! This video depicts another fire department that believes that 1.75″ attack lines with fog nozzles are appropriate for combat against a heavy fire condition. The video clearly shows that these weak, broken fog streams are having no effect on the fire. It certainly raises the question as to whether or not properly supplied interior attack lines operated aggressively in the early stages of the fire would have prevented the fire from reaching the stage that is seen in the video.

I would expect a much better performance from a full time career department. There is no excuse for them not to be ‘at the top of their game’ at all times. After all, it’s not as if they have to juggle their fire service training around their career and family obligation (as volunteers must)… THIS IS THEIR CAREER … they should be kicking the fire’s butt … instead they are not even in the game!

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