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	<title>Comments on: Two firefighters fired over Virginia noose incident. Loudoun County Fire-Rescue dismissed the firefighters today.</title>
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		<title>By: Flash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well here we go again! Paid vs. Volunteer. In fact they were paid men. Better known as paid pukes or paid maids. They should have been fired long ago. The county was better off with just Volunteers. You never had this type of thing.All you cry baby paid men should go to D.C. Let the real firefighters &quot;Volunteers&quot; do the job the right way. All you can do is sit around the station and cry like pre schoolgirls! And tax moneyis wasted on you. WAH! WAH! Thats your nrw name the wah wahs!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here we go again! Paid vs. Volunteer. In fact they were paid men. Better known as paid pukes or paid maids. They should have been fired long ago. The county was better off with just Volunteers. You never had this type of thing.All you cry baby paid men should go to D.C. Let the real firefighters &#8220;Volunteers&#8221; do the job the right way. All you can do is sit around the station and cry like pre schoolgirls! And tax moneyis wasted on you. WAH! WAH! Thats your nrw name the wah wahs!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: exray</title>
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		<dc:creator>exray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes they should have been fired and with the quickness. Sad thing is they were to stupid to allow there racist antics to be broadcast. My fear is the ones who think that way, and hide it and they are many among us brothers.There are many problems throughout departments across this inregards to race. Brotherhood its not, there are some f/f of different race who get along fine. But in general its a us versus them mentality and its sad. Lets weed out the backwoods mentality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes they should have been fired and with the quickness. Sad thing is they were to stupid to allow there racist antics to be broadcast. My fear is the ones who think that way, and hide it and they are many among us brothers.There are many problems throughout departments across this inregards to race. Brotherhood its not, there are some f/f of different race who get along fine. But in general its a us versus them mentality and its sad. Lets weed out the backwoods mentality</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Human Resource professional outside the fire service and the wife of a volunteer fire fighter for more then 20 years, I can tell you what the County did was correct.  Regardless of the line of business you are in when there is &quot;hostile work enviornment&quot; discrimination - prank or not someone has got to go and it should be those that pulled the so called prank.  Like it or not the Fire Service is a business. No one should be subjected to discrimination at work either directly or indirectly.  The Lt. acted properly.  If he hadn&#039;t he and the County could have been held personally liable should any FF have file suit in court for discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Human Resource professional outside the fire service and the wife of a volunteer fire fighter for more then 20 years, I can tell you what the County did was correct.  Regardless of the line of business you are in when there is &#8220;hostile work enviornment&#8221; discrimination &#8211; prank or not someone has got to go and it should be those that pulled the so called prank.  Like it or not the Fire Service is a business. No one should be subjected to discrimination at work either directly or indirectly.  The Lt. acted properly.  If he hadn&#8217;t he and the County could have been held personally liable should any FF have file suit in court for discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Annonamous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annonamous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, well since i know anyone who was able to stay awake for loudouns tandberg, and not goouge out their eyes looking at pozzo the clowns pathetic excuse for a combover, and hi &quot;UM&quot; being every other word he uses its obvious that LCFR while not as a whole but at least at the highest level doesnt value their employees. Since those were Pozzos exact words &quot;if you want to go elsewhere solong&quot;. so especially in these economic times in a county with &quot;no money&quot; would you expect them to try and save their investments.......NOPE just fire em who cares not my job...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, well since i know anyone who was able to stay awake for loudouns tandberg, and not goouge out their eyes looking at pozzo the clowns pathetic excuse for a combover, and hi &#8220;UM&#8221; being every other word he uses its obvious that LCFR while not as a whole but at least at the highest level doesnt value their employees. Since those were Pozzos exact words &#8220;if you want to go elsewhere solong&#8221;. so especially in these economic times in a county with &#8220;no money&#8221; would you expect them to try and save their investments&#8230;&#8230;.NOPE just fire em who cares not my job&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: engine16</title>
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		<dc:creator>engine16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can say what you want but there will always be problems in the fire service. Most paid men think they are better because they get a check,but we all take the same kind of training. If its not white vs black then its North vs South or one station thinks there better then the other. I know one of the FF that was terminated and I know he was not brought up that way. Joke gone bad. This should have been handled at the Lt&#039;s level but I guess lack of training. The one who leaked the information out should be fired also because he can&#039;t keep his mouth shut. I know how the fire service works been doing it for 31 years.LCFR is not the only place this goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can say what you want but there will always be problems in the fire service. Most paid men think they are better because they get a check,but we all take the same kind of training. If its not white vs black then its North vs South or one station thinks there better then the other. I know one of the FF that was terminated and I know he was not brought up that way. Joke gone bad. This should have been handled at the Lt&#8217;s level but I guess lack of training. The one who leaked the information out should be fired also because he can&#8217;t keep his mouth shut. I know how the fire service works been doing it for 31 years.LCFR is not the only place this goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: LCFR Volunteer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCFR Volunteer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on them, I&#039;m glad they were fired. When we are called out on fire/rescue calls, the ECC doesn&#039;t tell us if the victim(s) are white, black, Hispanic or any other race. We respond because it&#039;s our job. I have worked with excellent firemen, both career and volunteer. Good ridence to the two people who tarnished the good name of LCFR. There is no room for racism in a public service job, joking or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on them, I&#8217;m glad they were fired. When we are called out on fire/rescue calls, the ECC doesn&#8217;t tell us if the victim(s) are white, black, Hispanic or any other race. We respond because it&#8217;s our job. I have worked with excellent firemen, both career and volunteer. Good ridence to the two people who tarnished the good name of LCFR. There is no room for racism in a public service job, joking or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the first poster who repeatedly bashes on LCFR,

You should really stop while you are ahead. There&#039;s an old saying about everyone thinking you&#039;re a dumbass, and opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

You are either a career hater in the county who doesn&#039;t run fire with the career staff, or have applied for the job and couldn&#039;t make it. Then again, it could be all of the above. 

People know from reading the 3756 website that LCFR has some aggressive firefighters who do go inside. 


For those who think the two offenders from Hamilton should not have lost their job, maybe they can come work with you now. I really don&#039;t want to work with anyone like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the first poster who repeatedly bashes on LCFR,</p>
<p>You should really stop while you are ahead. There&#8217;s an old saying about everyone thinking you&#8217;re a dumbass, and opening your mouth and removing all doubt.</p>
<p>You are either a career hater in the county who doesn&#8217;t run fire with the career staff, or have applied for the job and couldn&#8217;t make it. Then again, it could be all of the above. </p>
<p>People know from reading the 3756 website that LCFR has some aggressive firefighters who do go inside. </p>
<p>For those who think the two offenders from Hamilton should not have lost their job, maybe they can come work with you now. I really don&#8217;t want to work with anyone like that.</p>
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		<title>By: person with a big spoon!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>person with a big spoon!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats correct...its not a playpin...for career staff. they held the career staff to a high standard and took action that was appropriate. now i&#039;m curious to know...if a volunteer did this...would have any action been taken? there are no rules in their playpin!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats correct&#8230;its not a playpin&#8230;for career staff. they held the career staff to a high standard and took action that was appropriate. now i&#8217;m curious to know&#8230;if a volunteer did this&#8230;would have any action been taken? there are no rules in their playpin!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 05:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is 2009 (well 2010 now) ... how many more decades does the fire service need to get lynching humor isn&#039;t funny???  Seriously, how many &quot;do overs&quot; and second chances and third chances have to be given?  You really think these guys didn&#039;t know what they did was inappropriate??  Wah wah wah boo hoo we have to be politically correct.  What you are really saying you are expected to act like adults.  Grow up, man up and stop acting like a bunch of kids.  The firehouse isn&#039;t your playpen whether you like it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is 2009 (well 2010 now) &#8230; how many more decades does the fire service need to get lynching humor isn&#8217;t funny???  Seriously, how many &#8220;do overs&#8221; and second chances and third chances have to be given?  You really think these guys didn&#8217;t know what they did was inappropriate??  Wah wah wah boo hoo we have to be politically correct.  What you are really saying you are expected to act like adults.  Grow up, man up and stop acting like a bunch of kids.  The firehouse isn&#8217;t your playpen whether you like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politicly Correct my ass, So would it have been politically correct if the Firefighter that this so called prank was played on came into the firehouse and cut those two guys ass, I think not, it wasn&#039;t a mistake or prank, a mistake is when you forget to put your seatbelt on or forget your boots @ the station, not putting a NOOSE in a black guys car, that&#039;s shear ignorance. A firehouse prank is dumping water on his head or putting baby powder on his pillow, not racial things like nooses, besides those guys getting terminated, if I was the firefighter involved I would follow the two to the cornerstore and see which one of them had the balls to put it around my neck. Nooses in cars or any such racism, white or black, mexican or asian, shows a real lack or morale and brotherhood in the firehouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicly Correct my ass, So would it have been politically correct if the Firefighter that this so called prank was played on came into the firehouse and cut those two guys ass, I think not, it wasn&#8217;t a mistake or prank, a mistake is when you forget to put your seatbelt on or forget your boots @ the station, not putting a NOOSE in a black guys car, that&#8217;s shear ignorance. A firehouse prank is dumping water on his head or putting baby powder on his pillow, not racial things like nooses, besides those guys getting terminated, if I was the firefighter involved I would follow the two to the cornerstore and see which one of them had the balls to put it around my neck. Nooses in cars or any such racism, white or black, mexican or asian, shows a real lack or morale and brotherhood in the firehouse.</p>
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