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A fire reported around 7:00 AM on New Year’s Day destroyed The Frame Factory at 7130 Little River Turnpike in Annandale, Virginia. Firefighters from Fairfax County called a second-alarm to help handle this fire. No one was inside the building when the fire was reported.
The video and pictures on this page are from Joel Kobersteen, Communications Director, Fairfax County Professional Firefighters & Paramedics, IAFF Local 2068.
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That’s how it’s done! Compare this defensive operation to the New Years Eve (morning) fire in Enterprise, AL. There’s no good reason to hang out in the collapse zone, especially directly under a parapet wall, when you can operate defensive streams from a safe distance. Thanks, Joel.
Very true… also I hate it when you see exterior operations conducted with 1 3/4 waterlines. If you’re going to go exterior, go BIG.
I have a question for the “culture of safety” firefighters… You’re quick to point a finger at the Detroit firefighters for not wearing SCBA on an exterior attack of a very small shed, but no comments about SCBA here. Using your theory, and judging from the picture, it looks like even the pump operators should have full PPE on… and of course about a 4 block area downwind needs to be evacuated. This is an interior attacked fire where I come from….
Well anonymous, since you weren’t there, maybe you should refrain from deciding whether this was an interior or exterior fire “where you come from”. I was there and there was no feasible way to conduct interior ops. The building was actually a 40′ wide x 20 deep storefront with an addition 30 x 70? on the a/b to b/c quadrant, all of block construction and another addition of wood on the david side. The occupancy was both a frame store and an antique dealership, and of course there was crap piled all over the place. To even consider placing personnel in that mess is a stupid, uneducated, unsafe train of thought. The building was a chopped up mess and maze and there was no where safe to crawl into, without even mentioning the advanced stage of the fire on arrival. They did in fact attempt an entry and a roof operation but pulled back, becasue it was the right thing to do. Again, you weren’t there. Maybe what you should spend your time doing is looking at the photos for exactly what they are, a snapshot in time and not draw convoluted assinine assumptions that make you look uneducated, cause for all I know, you might actually be.
Let it go, find another hobby besides bashing each other.
Regardless of interior or exterior (you’re not going to change my mind, I’ve seen much worse fires put out from the inside)… there are many, many “firefighters” that get on here and throw safety stones. I’m wondering why these safety stone throwers are not on here up in arms about lack of SCBA by all of the personnel in the “smoke zone”? They’re quick to throw the stone at Detroit on a shed fire, but nothing here. I don’t get it. Could it be most of the safety stone throwers are from Fairfax?
Was the initial attack started on side Charlie? Looking at the videos, you have heavy smoke which then turns into fire coming out of side Alpha, but only one or two guys pulling lines to it and no water flowing, but theres a ton of apparatus and a stick up in the air. What were fire conditions like on arrival? What size line was pulled initially?
Not throwing stones or anything, just curious about the strategy/tactics.
hmmm…sounds pretty accurate to me.
not to mention its funny how excited and knowledgable these guys get and sound about an EXTERIOR fire…….that I agree should’ve been interior.
“They’re quick to throw the stone at Detroit on a shed fire, but nothing here. I don’t get it. Could it be most of the safety stone throwers are from Fairfax?”……
Hmmm..sounds pretty accurate to me.
not to mention its funny how excited these guys get and knowledgable these guys sound about an EXTERIOR fire…….that I agree should’ve been interior.
The problem is that non-aggressive departments have not a clue on what is interior or exterior because they are always exterior. They have no idea what a 2 1/2 will do INSIDE a burning building because they have never experienced it.