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Arrival-video: House fire in Franklin, New Jersey. Three firefighters hurt.

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Above and below is raw video from a fire around 6:00 PM Friday at a three family home on Rutherford Avenue in Franklin, New Jersey.

The fire left three firefighters injured. (More video – Part 5, Part 6.)

Steven Reilly, NJHerald.com:

Of the three injured firefighters, two were from Franklin and one was from Ogdensburg. Franklin volunteer firefighters Steven Knebl III and Donna Spoll were injured during the fire.

Knebl suffered minor burns to his face while responding to the blaze. He was treated at St. Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston and released Friday.

Spoll suffered a bruised collar bone and was transported to Newton Medical Center. She was treated and released on Friday as well. The Ogdensburg firefighter suffered chest pains while at the scene and was later released.

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  1. 105truckie says

    I bet the guys inside in part 6 really loved the outside line.

    on May 3, 2012 @ 3:36 pm. Reply
  2. Me says

    Wow!!!!

    on May 3, 2012 @ 3:52 pm. Reply
  3. Jay says

    Nothing worse that arriving to find that you just responded all that way with no warning lights on! Curious tofind out why that guy with the red helmet was so mad?

    on May 3, 2012 @ 4:43 pm. Reply
  4. Mr. Dogood says

    Make it 4 firefighters injured…that was painful to watch.

    on May 3, 2012 @ 5:07 pm. Reply
  5. mdff says

    Did everything right until they actually had to fight the fire. Seemed to me that everyone with the exception of a few wanted to stay outside in fear of the huge conflagration that surrounded them. Those room and contents can be pretty scary on an old wood frame. Can anyone get off the wagon ready or are all these pretenders unqualified? Just the other day someone had the nerve to complain that a crew had their face pieces on as they exited the rig. At least they were ready!

    on May 3, 2012 @ 6:33 pm. Reply
    • mdff says

      Raise a ladder or 2.

      on May 3, 2012 @ 6:35 pm. Reply
  6. 95%er says

    is there a video 2A?
    because 1 and 2 look like the biggest amateur wackerfest in history, and then mysteriously, and pretty quickly, the fire is out before it spread anywhere.

    so the missing video would be interesting to see.

    me thinks there may be 2 or 3 folks on that scene who had a clue and the rest of them went along for the ride. the first 2 minutes looked like they were gonna burn that house down to the ground.

    regarding video 6, its the age old question…what were they thinking? probably not very much.

    lots of clean shiny gear on lots of firefighters without SCBA.

    oh well…no Stockton gold star tonight. but better than it might have been.

    on May 3, 2012 @ 7:35 pm. Reply
  7. 105truckie says

    Lots of outstanding firefighting going on…….

    on May 3, 2012 @ 11:27 pm. Reply
  8. David says

    95% great comments

    on May 3, 2012 @ 11:38 pm. Reply
  9. Khungus says

    Looks like these guys could use a little training. There’s no excuse for arriving to a job and not being ready to do yours. I think you should also find a new truck company.

    on May 4, 2012 @ 1:13 am. Reply
  10. CHAOS says

    So for all that time and all those bodies strolling around on scene, we get one lousy ladder thrown and it’s to the porch roof at waaaay too steep of an angle and extends maybe an inch past the top of the rain gutter. Wonderful.
    Some rather interesting hose handling too.

    Hope they do well during parade season.

    on May 4, 2012 @ 7:01 am. Reply
  11. Mike says

    Typical NJ volunteer firefight, way to leave the front of the building open for the ladde truck

    on May 4, 2012 @ 2:33 pm. Reply
  12. Curly in CT says

    Two words….”they Suck”! Too many deficiencies to list. In video 6, the inside line should have put the nozzle on straight stream & knocked that fat f*&#k & his buddy on their asses. Maybe they’d have quit & there would be two less dopes in that dept.

    on May 4, 2012 @ 4:22 pm. Reply
  13. livindadream says

    O.K. All you fatties stand out front! Lets not get you killed today! Besides the SCBA wont fit you anyways. Paid or Volleys, A physical fitness standard needs to be followed. No wonder why guys are dropping like flies.

    on May 4, 2012 @ 4:55 pm. Reply
  14. DDakota2007 says

    This department is very sub par and it shows they do more drinking than training . NJ has many quality fire departments and videos like these give a bad light to the ones that do it right. These guys show they have no clue on what they are doing and I am suprised the fire went out. They called more mutual aid for a room and contents fires than some cities call for a house fire. The boro should look at getting them trained properly and not just a bunch of jolly vollies wandering around a fire scene like a bunch of buffs.

    on May 4, 2012 @ 5:50 pm. Reply
  15. jon says

    they had a water supply almost immediately. in my humble opinion…..deck gun through the window. boom! we have knock down.

    on May 4, 2012 @ 7:06 pm. Reply
    • Anonymous says

      yeAH OK DECK GUN PUSH FIRE BACK IN ON ANY VICTIMS OR INSIDE FIREFIGHTERS MORON

      on May 30, 2012 @ 12:46 pm. Reply
  16. h dawg says

    Livindadream nailed it. I laughed hard.

    Fatties in front, no need for a lodd due to cardiac arrest today.

    Also, if you’re on a fire and you’re standing around you’re doing it wrong. Yes, even RIT/RIC/FAST. You can throw ladders, do your own 360, stage tools, do outside functions, set up rehab, etc etc.

    on May 4, 2012 @ 10:43 pm. Reply
  17. Khungus says

    Jon, if you are serious, you would fit right in with this company.

    There are a lot of good volly companies out there, but for every good one, there are ten like this. If you want to be a firefighter you need to learn what a firefighter is. Companies need to create a culture of professional accountability and aggressive interior work.

    Dakota, there is nothing wrong with being a buff as long as you aren’t buffing your own fire.

    on May 5, 2012 @ 12:11 am. Reply
  18. jon says

    khungus…..c’mon. pull yer head out. i’m not suggesting they fight this fire strictly in defensive mode. all i’m saying is that in the first couple minutes they’ve got a water supply, they’ve got a big deck gun, and they have a big window with big fire coming out. you mean to tell me that if you’ve got the opportunity to put a lot of water on the fire immediately, in preparation for an interior attack, that you wouldn’t take it? you’re in a rut buddy. you need to shake yourself out of always thinking the same on every fire. the ‘unburned-to-burned’ interior attack works great for most situations, but it isn’t always the most efficient initial strategy. and in this case, where the fire is initially going to be above the heads of the interior attack team, it may not even be the correct initial strategy. think outside the box brother!

    on May 6, 2012 @ 12:09 pm. Reply
    • Anonymous says

      ITS EASY TO SIT AT A COMPUTER AND RUN YOUR MOUTH IT WAS OUT IN MINUTES IDIOT WITHOUT PUSHING FIRE BACK ON VICTIMS OR FIREFIGHTERS WITH DECK GUN

      on May 30, 2012 @ 12:49 pm. Reply
  19. Dangir says

    Really jon….using a deck gun on a one room fire is “thinking outside the box?” Oh, I see it’s a “big window.”

    on May 6, 2012 @ 7:29 pm. Reply
  20. Khungus says

    Jon, I will relegate my comments to what you said, as opposed to my opinion of you as a FF. This is a difficult task.

    I am all for thinking outside of the box. But there is a difference between coming up with a good alternative solution and making stupid suggestions.

    There are certain basic principles of firefighting that have been developed over the past hundred plus years and have been payed for with the blood of firemen. These lessons have been invaluable as they have saved countless lives, both firefighter and civilian. The first and most important of these principles is don’t be a pussy. There is no room in the fire service for pussies. Firefighting is dangerous. You may die. This holds true even if you are the best fireman out there. If you can’t accept this, its time to take the costume off and save it for Halloween.

    At the very core of the fire service is the concept of aggressive interior attack. That’s why we have “speedlays” and SCBAs, and turnout gear, etc. Our job is to save lives and minimize property loss. Saving the foundation and explaining to the homeowner that they can always rebuild is never acceptable. NEVER!

    The thinking behind putting a deck gun in service through a window instead of or before conducting an interior attack is exactly what is wrong with so many volunteer fire companies. I’m sure the victim inside will appreciate you blowing the fire into the next room, or the steam burns you just gave him.

    Jon, I’m not calling you a pussy, but you sure are thinking like one.

    on May 11, 2012 @ 12:32 am. Reply
  21. Anonymous says

    and what would you do if you called and there were no volunteers to come and even attempt to do this? I can tell you half of the people that are there are new members. It’s not easy getting a crew at 4 in the morning. Stop being rude, and appreciate the fact that any of these people even took the time to wake up that early to do something you dont even get paid for… its a small town a fire maybe once every year.. if that. grow up and have some respect. what happened to brotherhood?

    on June 30, 2012 @ 3:58 am. Reply

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