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There are four parts to the video taken by MrCctvtech on YouTube of an apartment building fire at a seniors complex in Manalapan, New Jersey (Monmouth County). You will find links to each of the parts below the images.
Anthony Panissidi and Michelle Sahn, Asbury Park Press:
A lightning strike is the suspected culprit behind a three-alarm fire that ignited a two-story, multifamily apartment building in a complex off Route 9 in Manalapan Monday morning, police and fire authorities said.
No one was injured in Monday morning’s fire that began in Unit D of Building 112 on Amberly Drive, police said.
Upon arriving at the scene, (Gordons Corner Fire Company Chief Lee) Maksimik said that efforts were concentrated on the flames that had already burned through half of the roof.
Samantha Coppolino, Manalapan Patch:
The fire is believed to have originated in unit D of building 112 in the Covered Bridge Complex on Amberly Drive, where it spread rapidly to the other connecting units, according to a press release issued by Lt. Michael Fountain.
Police received the call at 8:48 a.m. According to Fountain, everyone was evacuated and there were no injuries reported by residents. However, two firefighters have been transported to a nearby hospital.
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Oh Manalapan, I knew how it was going to end when the 1st due was not laying in on huge fire on arrival.. I am so glad no one was killed in this operation so lucky
they did hut the hydrant its left front ,they left access open for other apparatus before they hit the second hydrant, get your facts straight
Nice job guys. No firewalls I suppose. Ever think about getting ahead of the fire and doing a trench cut? Lot’s of equipment, not quite that good at tactics I’m afraid.
Nice equipment, seem to be aggresive appearance so that is the positive. Chiefs need to put helmets on, engines/quint need to lay in, pull the lever or pin for ladder pipe operations. Saving the best for last, Part 2, people on second floor without any PPE operating dangerously close to heavy fire conditions, unacceptable.
That duece and a half was kicking ass for a while there, would have been nice to get them some support with vertical ventilation.
After that it was kind of a cluster.
Did not lay out going in… offensive and defensive at the same time… fire through the roof vents smoke and heat… old saying ladder pipe goes up and the building comes down. Strike Da Box K
THAT IS SOME B.S! What type of stupid, ignorant fire department flows an aerial INTO a structure while firefighters are working inside? They are doing well with what they have going. VERY lucky no one got hurt or worse. OFFENSIVE or DEFENSIVE? That’s real bright, lets blow the fire back down on the crews working inside. Attic fires are hard to cut off when the aerial is blasting away. BASICS PEOPLE! Good initial deployment, Second due LAY A SUPPLY, maybe one more hand line, take your puller at the beginning and pull some ceiling! I would be kicking commands butt if he said to flow that aerial. FTM-PTB
I was glad to see the guy wearing the shorts had a vest on,real smart.
This proves that you can have the biggest, baddest toys but without proper training and tatics they are useless.
Oh so true
WTF!???!!
Okay, so lets approach this from a critique standpoint. Not to blast these guys but to learn from them.
1. Large fire on arrival, water, water , water! One, no two!, wait, three!….No, four! Yes, FOUR rigs pass the hydrant! Now instead of one guy making the wrap it takes five to pull back.
2. First due pulls a line, good. Where’s the working line? A straight pull with the nozzle and no working line? Now the Chief has to pull some. This is a pre fire, training and hose load issue. Lets not wait until the fire to figure out how to pull enough hose so that we have some working line? We can do better!
3. Truck placement. Really? On the sidewalk? Hey Chief you do realize thats 4″ inches of concrete, right? I thought that maybe the aerial was broken and could not extend the 100′ it was designed for, no that wasn’t the problem. So why so close? SMH??
4. Truck crew, slow down and move the pin. We all do it, unless you’re throwing your ladder regularly you have to remember to move the pin.
5. Command personnel at the structure with no PPE’s, and I thought our department was the only one who commanded fires in shorts! We are not alone. Remember chief, if its okay for you its okay for them….Lead by example. P.S. Stay in the street. There’s plenty of room for micromanagement out there.
6. Straight stream shooting through the non-existent roof. Was that a smooth bore nozzle? I didn’t notice to be honest. How about a little fog pattern?
7. Exterior ops began, and CONTINUED with guys inside. Not only that, latter arriving companies go right to the structure and continue in with the ladder working? Is there anybody looking at the big picture here?
8. Someone educate me on this…They said lightning started the fire. Was there still active lightning in the area??? And does it make sense to raise the lightning rod if there is?
Well it went out! Yeah, they all do…eventually. Hopefully the FF that was assisted out is not seriously hurt, or anyone else for that matter. Remember boys and girls, BIG fire needs LOTS of water. Get it coming in and you’ll start on the right foot.
The first in officer should be demoted for not laying out coming in. IF that much fire doesn’t make him/her realize alot of water is needed, he/she shouldn’t be an officer.
The chief should be demoted for not recognizing his idiot first in officer didn’t lay out and then order the next rig in to lay out. The quint had hose, I assume the chief knew that. The 2nd engine had hose and didn’t lay out and wasn’t smart enough to stage on the plug and ask command if they need a line and where.
So I see 3 officers and a chief that have no business being in the ranks they hold.
If anyone tries to justify any of the 3 rigs not laying out, you don’t have a clue either.
Agrees with retired chief and livindadream, ‘
The first in Cheif was so busy getting his turnouts on, manning the quint several times that I do believe he thought he could do everything. Thats called a micro mananger.Basic big fire that the initial crew couldve taken care of if they had the basic support. Big water inside (another handline), truckies venting and hooking basic stuff fellas. The command concept wtf, no accountability what so ever, no direct tactics, eventhough videos only show once side of this but damn…I hope they were sure the building was evacuated (citizens) before they started the water works from the exterior. Its bad enough the real firemen inside was getting pounded by a water deluge…thanks outside wannabe firemen. If seems if you wanna burn a place down this is the perfect video to show you how its done.
-Be safe out there
What a shame. Obviously this department has several, young, aggressive, knowledgeable firefighters (I’m talking about the few who took the initial attack line and the 6′ hook into the fire area). Their initial aggressive interior attack knocked down a tremendous amount of fire. If their attack was supported by the immediate placing of the aerial to the roof and the cutting of a large vent hole, as well as one or two more lines to the top floor along with firefighters with hooks pulling ceilings ahead of the fire it’s very likely that they would have stopped the fire. It’s unthinkable (although way too common an occurance in today’s fire service) that the I.C. would choose to operate an aerial master stream into the large vent hole that was eventually created by the fire (rather than by good truck operations) while the Brothers are inside the fire building doing a proper attack. Aside from placing his personnel at great risk by this action, the I.C. (as well as everyone else in the fire service) should know that operating an aerial master stream into a vent hole at an attic fire will push the fire laterally into uninvoled areas making total loss of the structure the most likely outcome. It’s tough to watch the chief doing what he’s apparantly most comfortable doing (stretching and hooking up lines and putting down ladder jacks) rather than commanding the operation and watching the fire building looking out for firefighter safety. Free lancing by folks in civilian clothes appeared in abundance. Most notable are the actions of the civilian (bald head with a portable radio) who seems to have taken charge (sometimes from inside the building other times outside). The department should sit down and review this video alongside someone who is a respected fire service leader so that the way too numerous improper actions can be pointed out. It probably would be a good idea to choose the most knowledgeable firefighters in the department to be the command staff before a future fire is handled in the same dangerous fashion. Thankfully no Brothers were seriously injured or killed. Kudos to those few who really broke their butts doing what appeared to be a very aggressive and effective initial attack.
I’ll bet the truck company would like to have that spot the first arriving piece took.
Those pitched roofs do a good job of shedding water —– almost like they were planned that way,
It didn’t really look like the truck crew knew how to operate their equipment. They had trouble with the outriggers, trouble with operating the aerial from the turntable, trouble with the pattern on the pipe, and they flowed the ladder pipe with crews in the building, who seemed to be making some progress.
Does anyone know if there are hydrants in the complex? The first three engines came in dry, and those truck guys hand jacked about 300′ of LDH for their little personal cluster.
The hydrant can be seen where the engines come in and make that right turn. It would have been no problem for any of the 1st 4 apparatus that came in to lay out. Makes it seem like everyone on the scene had TUNNEL VISION.
Shorts and tank-tops on the fire ground? Not a good image for the public to see and not to mention safety.
With all the training and great equipment in 2011 I dont understand how this could happen. When I was a ff in Pg county in the 70s and 80s this would have never happened.
I think the best part for me was watching the supply line being hand jacked after 4 different rigs drive past the hydrant without laying in.
Guys, I think there’s a hydrant we can’t see, PAST the fire- there’s now way the first-due is supporting that 2.5″ off of tank water. I would hope that would be something the first due would know about, or be told by the chief/truckie before they got there.
With interior operations going on, did i miss something or were there no ground ladders thrown? If they would have needed rapid egress I fear they would have had to jump off the balcony.
I have to agree with the previous comments as well. Stay safe brothers.
First due engine did a great job once they got in there. The same can’t be said for the truck company. Their first instinct/acion was to establish a water supply for defensive operations. How about opening the roof or performing a primary? tisk tisk tisk.
Back to basics for this department.
http://www.craighaasphotography.com/Journalism/Manalapan-3rd-Alarm-Covered/23786770_N59pt6#!p=1&n=10
From these pictures looks like when they disconnected the supply line to the rear of the ladder, they actually hooked it up to that first engine who then supplied itself and the ladder…
Hey, anyone know how to set this truck up? I bet we can burn the entire building down if we can figure it out…..
Like someone else noted above……all of those shiny parade wagons and mother ships cant do crap on the fireground without FIREFIGHTERS manning them. Whats more important, the toys or the job?
Some more info:
1. There is a firewall running from B-side to D-side seperating the building. There are 8 apartments in this building.
2. The 2 people without PPE pulling line / in the building are volly firefighters with this department. They also work for the town, explaining the lack of gear and arriving first. However, NOT AN EXCUSE.
3. The cause of the fire was a lightning strike. At time of dispatch, the storms just finished passing through.
Everyone already pointed out offensive and defensive at the same time, ppe, water supply. How about RIT team? It seems like the group of 4-5 firefighters that are standing on the sidewalk near the A-D carner is the initial RIT. Where are the tools??
I can guarantee you that the supply line is connected directly to the hydrant with no engine to pump it. That is why that stream looks the way it does, it’s hydrant pressure. Then you have the Ladder Chauffer at the pump panel running the pump to full RPM’s…WHY? When you connect the supply to the rear, you can’t pump it with he quint’s pump, it’s not possible. You see the guys shaking their heads wondering why the pump is not delivering. You guys need some training on your rig so you undertand how it works.
its shameful the way you guys talk without having proper knowledge of what went on at this fire ground when the second due engine passed the camera frame they did hit the hydrant that is past the fire. if they hit on the way in there would be no access to the fire with additional apparatus. also there was no lightening upon arrival so it was completely safe to raise the areal. the interior attack line was operating from a porch which was in front of the fire unit so they were safe working from there. as for ground ladders the other 3 sides did have ground ladders set up.
Before I even read the comments I’ll put in what I noticed:
No one laid in and had to hike the 5″ from the stick back.
On the stick, were they pumping or just going direct to pipe from hydrant pressure? Stream looked weak.
Pouring water in the top while crews still inside?
Who was the guy on the fire floor w/ absolutely no gear?
It looked like they pushed the fire w/ the aerial streams right across to the other end.
I didn’t see the last part of 3 or 4.
Those are my observations.