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Three more clips from Monday’s fire at a seniors complex in Manalapan, New Jersey. This is helmet-cam video from bizzle81689 on YouTube. On the video above there is a ceiling collapse at 4:50 that prompts the evacuation of the second floor.
The last firefighter out of the collapse area starts to make his escape over the rail but is told it’s safe to use the stairs (the image below).
Earlier in the week we showed you video that began before the first rigs pulled up and showed the initial attack. The videos brought about a lively discussion in the comments section.
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As near as I can tell….if you look at 2:00 in this helmet cam vid (the first one), it seems to match up with the 9:15 minute mark with video part 2 of the first series..you can see the member backing the handline out from the entrance. Soooo….if this is correct……the aerial has been operating for SEVERAL minutes dumping water into the self venting fire…..ya think they should have anticipated the collapse???????
Offensive or Defensive…PICK ONE!
Lucky there were no LODD’s here…..
Watched what I could hoping to shed some light on the poor operations I saw in the other videos . . . maybe there were reasons for their nonsense . . . maybe they did some good. Wrong. Why would someone post this on Youtube? There is nothing to be proud of.
If you are a member of this department the best thing you can do for you and your family is quit. This is one of the most pitiful showings I’ve seen on here ( and that’s saying a lot). I don’t expect this video will stay up long. I genuinely am concerned with the safety of anyone operating with this department . It’s disturbing the level of incompetency and the lack of training is blatant. Borderline criminal.
This is seriuosly awful. That guy must have walked two miles,just so he could put a weak handline in service under the aerial. The entire incident seemed like one giant cluster. Every time he turned around, there was some body else telling him what to do. And the ground ladder to the side? Really? I’m sure they’re all nIce guys, but they really need to find something else to do.
This is a good example of why firefighting should be a CAREER instead of a hobby. Their lack of strategy/tactics really shows their lack of training.
THEIR lack of training. Don’t paint thousands of departments and hundreds of thousands of firefighters with your union-biased paint brush.
In a near perfect world it would be but we are from near perfect so the citizens get what they pay for. Some good and some bad.
sounds like my vol fd…..everyone wants to be the boss and tell others to do stuff….but dont do much themselves. “officers” with no REAL fire experience doing their own thing.
Um, can some one explain why no one vented the roof of the right side of the front of the building (A side)?
Even I, a lowly buff, was horrified to see offensive and defensive fire fighting going on in the left sided apartments in the earlier videos.
If even I can see what’s wrong with this scenario, how come these guys can’t?
I don’t comment on tactics very often BECAUSE I’m not a firefighter, but it’s pretty horrifying to me that I can see all the glaring and frightening mistakes made here.
Glad there were no serious injuries or God Forbid a LODD.
If running your yap and pointing would put out fires —- these guys would be great.
What a strange video…Everyone looked the part but no one knew their lines. AND Why Oh Why would you throw your safety gear off the second story when the Sh!# hits the fan??? Thats stuff we learned in rookie school Waaaaay back when. I think you guys hit the nail on the head & expect to see “This video has been removed by user” before its too long. Paid/Vol doesnt matter…This is a black eye for the fire service
I wonder if they think this was a wonderful operation.
Falling Sheetrock is a building evacuating collapse? All you can say is embarrassing. I don’t even understand why people post videos like this.
Hint to the fire buffs and or fire videographers:
If a good house fire or apartment fire is going like it is supposed to, you really won’t have to much to film. Maybe some fire jumping out the windows, some apparatus at the street, some lines being laid, some roof work…….but not much firefighting.
I fully agree with anonymous this is terrible to watch .Where in the world did these guys learn these firefighting tactics . I never and I repeat never learned this when I was a vol ff in PG county in Maryland where we had 50 departments and a requirement to go to train at the univ of maryland twice a week and this was back in the 80s-90s and still exist today.
I like the comment where the one guy says, I can’t believe they back their ladder down there. Guess he has never seen any PG County footage before.
What did they expect. They’ve been dumping thousands of gallons on it and then get flustered when it all comes down. If actually made the “truckies” (I use that term loosely)job easier.
Money and toys will never replace knowledge of the basics. Good group of guys from GCFC but horrible group of firefighters. What a sjame
Well, sorry I missed it. Apparently it was so awful the guy who posted the videos pulled them from YouTube