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A fire in a duplex yesterday on East Northern Avenue at North Murray Street in Springfield, Ohio. No reports of injuries.
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Looks to be more of a twin or semi-detached rather than a duplex, but I guess different areas use different definitions…
2 firefighters controlled that fire…..everyone else who was there representing the fire department….not so much! I saw several guys put a lot of effort into doing nothing! If they would have helped stretch the supply line, straighten out kinks, throw ladders, ventilate, stretch a second line, just do anything to help further the cause, this would have been a well done job!!! A poor representation by most….kudos to the 2 firefighters who took the line in!
What kind of a supply line lay/stretch was that? Thanks 2nd engine for blocking access for the ladder co. with your messed up 5 inch debacle. Its a 6 min clip & no laddering?…venting etc.?
Was the supply line delivered to the scene in the trunk of an automobile? I can’t imagine any other reason for carrying supply line in individual (disconnected) sections. Also, many hands make short work. Quite a few folks walked back and forth doing absolutely nothing while one firefighter dragged the LDH. When the LDH was charged it was left with a significant kink in it. If you are going to lay a supply line, it’s a good idea to remove all the kinks to insure that the line can flow its total capacity.
Good job on laddering and roof ventilation.
A cluster f*** of an operation.
Takes real talent to prevent the truck from making the scene AND cut your own water supply by half at the same time. Well done.
WOW!
we all seem to be on the same page on this incident // looks like a room and contents fire at best // but operation of fireground looked poor // alot depends on the type of department they have (career/vols/combined) and ops plan they have // appears to be a quick knock on the fire off the tank water // but the aftereffect could have been a catastrophic //
Don’t know their SOP’s and I wasn’t there. Their experience or training level I have no idea but thorough schooling in water supply should be started and stressed now. I hope they use this as a learning experience.
When did it become the Norm to not lay out going in? We see more and more of the lack of supple line. We know there is a Plug the other Engine found it….
New tee shirt:
Springfield Fire Department
“You can tell we don’t do this very often.”
No one mention the hero in the blue uniform yelling at everybody, thought he was a cop the way he was dressed, wtf, put your PPE on, you just may have to go into action and help someone
First, lay your own line going in so you don’t need to yell at the other engine. Second, when the first engine screws it up;back your engine down the street and REVERSE LAY to the hydrant. The engine on the hydrant will increase the flow, and it becomes a big manifold for later arriving companies. The later arriving companies can “hook up” to the engine on the hydrant and use whatever water supply the first engine isn’t using. Why drag the LDH when horsepower (the engine) and gravity (the hose falling off the truck) can do it for you!
It blows my mind that laying in seems to be a forgotten art
Im wondering if this is a paid department or volunteer?
“Professional”. Paid. Career.
They are all of the above.
Proof there is no excuse for not laying in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrwEuWl_R8k&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLzHkhEUitoP-35sBx7qVdfw
Nice to know all other fire departments things always go perfect on the fire ground. Lot of criticism from one video and one view. Could have gone better….yes, but the fire got put out and everybody went home. Learn from it and move on.
Unless you’re in a wildland fire area, the fire normally is out by shift change, whether you put it out or it burns itself out, so I’m tired of hearing that argument. Would you tell a house painter that “it’s okay, the house got painted”, even though he slopped paint all over your car and patio? No, because it’s not acceptable. Neither are alot of the practices on the videos at this site. Just because you have turnout gear, it doesn’t make you a firefighter.
Really dissapointed in what this video shows! I was excited to see my hometown fire department show up on Statter911…THEN, I watched the video in complete dissappointment. I grew up watching this very department in the 70′s fight a lot of fire, very aggressive, and was the pinnacle of my interest in the job. There is no sense of urgency on this video, and I agree with a lot of you, I’m a diehard truck guy, and can’t understand why they blocked so much access for the truck. Come on Springfield, this just doesn’t look good. However, great job for the two on the attack line.
Looks to be a career department. I’ve learned from watching these videos that you can’t always tell if it’s career or volunteer.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone walk that slow on the initial attack phase of a fire. Come on guys, move with a purpose! Without repeating all the above comments, I would just add the lack of a 2nd line for RIT or egress was disturbing, not to mention no ladders thrown for a 2nd exit from the upper floor.
Frustrating to watch. Despite the initial line getting to the fire and containing it, the rest was unacceptable. One person struggling with LDH while others just walk by, blocking the street with LDH, major kink unnoticed. No laddering. BUT, they did bring the fan! “Street walking” with the face piece on helps adds to to tunnel vision..literally! This IS abread and butter type job. They need more dress rehearsals.
If I was a betting man, I’d bet the Chauffeur hand jacked the first length of 5 inch to the plug, and came up short,thus the rolled up pony length lying near the curb. Google Earth shows the plug located just behind the cameraman. If this is the case, I find it perfectly acceptable.
There is something very funky about the first piece in. It appears to have a very small wheelbase, a extremely low hose bed in the rear, and is unpainted in comparison to the cab. I can’t find any pictures of it on their website,http://www.ci.springfield.oh.us/depts/fire/
The first piece in is springfields Rescue (has a small pump 1000gpm i think). Im very shocked to see this video and all the things missing but this is a all career department but they have very limited staffing VERY! im not even sure if they have ldh on it