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This is video from Matt Gregoire (sparkywfd) of Providence Fire Videos from a fire yesterday on Pond House Road in North Smithfield, Rhode Island. Here’s some of Matt’s description of the fire:
On arrival of the FD, heavy fire was showing from the rear of the house. Chief Jillson quickly ordered mutual aid tankers to the scene because there are no hydrants in the area.
Firefighters couldn’t make entry on side 2 because of an electrical line burning but as they attempted to make entry on side 3, they encountered a dog inside, grabbed him and brought him to safety.
With the fire rapidly progressing, firefighters were forced to exit the building and fight the fire from the exterior.
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A word of advice to future homeowners………live NEAR a fire hydrant.
here is an idea, put your mask on go in and put the water on the fire.
Looks like they had water pressure issues, perhaps that’s the reason they didn’t make a quicker interior attack? I saw lots of standing in the doorway flowing water but not anyone going interior until the fire really started taking off on them. Maybe some other factor (besides the power line) I’m not seeing from the video but looked like they would have had it knocked a lot quicker if they just pushed in and pulled some ceiling.
Someone with more electrical knowledge than I, please explain. I know there are line fuses on power poles that have transformers, and that they should fail whenever there is a direct short. We’ve seen a couple videos in a row where the power just kept flowing, endangering firefighters. Can anyone explain about those fuses??
Looked like pretty severe damage to the house when the video started. Limited water supply always makes things worse. I think they did the best they could, considering.
No criticism of this incident, just trying to learn: would hitting the area around the arcing electric line with a fog nozzle be appropriate? Based on http://www.usbr.gov/power/data/fist/fist5_2/vol5-2.pdf and any house line being well under 16kv after the transformer, 3 feet of distance with a fog line is safe.
Thoughts?
What the fuck…
Where to begin?
1. Why are they standing under a charged arcing powerline with fire around it getting ready to fall?
2. Why does nobody pay attention to or care about the pass device going off? This is why Pass devices don’t work as they should—complacency.
3. Why even flow that shit stream of water into that room. Pissing in the wind.
4. Fully involved house? Not so much. Get in from the porch, not the room that is involved. Get in from the opposite side make the knock open it up and overhaul. Well build house plenty of time to work. They made entry from the fire room with poor hoseline and poor tactic. They lost that house, and by no means because of a lack of manpower.
Honestly it made me upset. I don’t normally advocate the typical “get in and make the knock” mentality on a lot of these responses but this was ridiculous.
A good display of why you have to go INSIDE buildings to put the fire out.
They couldn’t make entry “into” the house because of an electrical line arcing on the “outside” of the house, are you kidding me!? I hope you guys didn’t go home saying you did the best job you could, or go to the firehouse patting yourselves on the back for that absolutely horrendous display of firefighting.
Interesting definition of “heavy fire showing”.
Remember, folks, when you have fire & smoke venting from a top floor window, step back and flow a handline in that window. Beautiful.
In hydranted areas, does anyone wait until they get there & find out they need a supply line to start the rigs carrying hose?? No, but folks continue to go to unhydranted areas and wait until they get there to start tankers.
At least they have cool looking turnouts.
FIre21, if the wires were completely shorted there would have been no arcing and the line fuses probably would have opened. What you see is the wires short circuiting momentarily and then the current flow pushes them apart again, creating the sparks. And the cycle repeats itself. But the momentary short circuits don’t last long enough to trip the fuses. And I can’t see why 240V arcing on the outside would prevent an interior attack as long as everyone is able to stay clear of it.
Thank you, much clearer now.