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Helmet-cam: House fire in Ballston Spa, NY. Fire chief says wind was a factor.

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Video from gopro518 of a fire Sunday afternoon on Milton Avenue in Ballston Spa, New York (Saratoga County).

YNN:

Fire officials said the fire sparked in the attic, but the cause is still unknown. They said while the first and second floors of the apartment had some water damage, the attic and roof of the home were destroyed.

“Unfortunately, with the wind blowing, it was blowing the fire on the windows on all four corners of the attic. So, once the window broke it was blowing the fire around in the attic. Once we were able to get in the attic we were able to put it out,” said Kevin Theriault, Ballston Spa Fire Chief.


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  1. Fire21 says

    Finally, a helmet cam where we can actually see some of what’s being done. We’re encouraged by other viewers on here to not post negative comments, so I won’t. I just wonder…was interior attack being made into the attic before, during or after the exterior application of water? Was roof ventilation done at some point? Do they practice with ladders?

    I wasn’t there, and what we see is a very narrow field of view, so I assume a lot was being done that we can’t see…..

    on March 21, 2013 @ 1:45 pm. Reply
    • LT from Northern NY says

      Thank You! At least asking questions First.

      on March 25, 2013 @ 5:49 pm. Reply
  2. Old Guy says

    Outstanding

    on March 21, 2013 @ 3:45 pm. Reply
  3. VolFFinNC says

    Please tell me this was a practice burn…I know it wasn’t but from the video they didn’t even know how to get a ladder setup or how to be a backup man on the line, and all that new shiny gear too. All of that is covered in your basic 1403 classes and here in my area of NC you don’t get a black helmet until you’ve completed all of your 1403 classes.

    on March 21, 2013 @ 3:46 pm. Reply
  4. Retired Chief says

    “Hey new guy, you’re not going to get any experience standing in the yard.”

    on March 21, 2013 @ 3:51 pm. Reply
  5. on the job says

    I guess Joe did’nt want to talk to him….LOL, another waste of time watching a helmet cam.

    on March 21, 2013 @ 4:39 pm. Reply
  6. Anonymous says

    terrible placement on cam

    on March 21, 2013 @ 4:58 pm. Reply
  7. Harry Rampe says

    Does not look like the A or Bteam showed up at this one.For crying out loud vent the roof go inside pull ceilings and do your job.Also quit wasting time playing with your helmet camera.

    on March 21, 2013 @ 5:19 pm. Reply
  8. Glad-I-don't-live-there says

    where to begin…. I’m glad I wasn’t waiting with my a** on fire the 3 plus minutes to get the airpack on, and another minute to put the gloves on. WTF ????

    on March 21, 2013 @ 5:22 pm. Reply
  9. firefighthero says

    Where was this training burn at?

    on March 21, 2013 @ 5:28 pm. Reply
  10. Crowbar says

    Embarrassing.

    on March 21, 2013 @ 7:12 pm. Reply
  11. Newbie says

    I’m not even going to start with my opinion… the other videos from the fire are even worse. I’m all for fire cams, but this example doesn’t demonstrate the good skills we can learn by watching videos.

    on March 21, 2013 @ 7:35 pm. Reply
    • Newbie says

      Correction… I’m not going to start with my list of problems.

      on March 21, 2013 @ 7:36 pm. Reply
  12. Captain Retired NJ says

    What the hell was that? Gear was brand new and the SCBA donning was just painful to watch. Nice tower; observation tower, not truck company. At least one line up to the fire, but exterior attack X2 in progress. Ugly job.

    on March 21, 2013 @ 7:45 pm. Reply
  13. Dmgdriver says

    And Probie makes it home safe from another fire.

    on March 21, 2013 @ 8:14 pm. Reply
  14. Old backstep fireman says

    Nough said already! Just another amature day on the fireground. Back in the day two engines and a truck
    would have done the job the right way and no need to play
    with a air pack because the fire would have been out by the time this guy figured out how to put it on and turn it on.

    PS – Pure ignorance dumping his gloves and helmet on someones
    car!

    on March 21, 2013 @ 9:40 pm. Reply
  15. Old Man says

    The part of every video is reading the crazy ass comments

    on March 21, 2013 @ 10:14 pm. Reply
  16. cbj says

    Painful to watch. Local fire club has annual outing.cbj

    on March 21, 2013 @ 11:58 pm. Reply
  17. OldCityCaptain says

    cbj…..You described it perfectly!!!! Pretty much every comment on here is spot on! I will not re-state what has already been said, I will end with my standard….COME ON MAN!!!!!

    on March 22, 2013 @ 8:37 am. Reply
  18. OH BOY says

    Why post this and embarass your company? Was that a clown car he got out of?

    on March 22, 2013 @ 8:41 am. Reply
  19. sarcastic jake says

    I was trying to find something good to say but came up empty. I’m sorry but how is an entire department that bad at fighting fire? Doesn’t someone have a clue??

    on March 22, 2013 @ 10:14 am. Reply
  20. CareerLt says

    “… and we kicked that fire’s ass! Man you should have seen it!” was heard back at the firehouse as they high fived each other and went on to brag and impress their friends that we had a job today. “Everyone went home safe and the fire went out…” was muttered by the members of this impressive fire department. Just sit back fella’s. The fire will eventually get to where you are. PATHETIC! Why would you EVER post a video of an operation like this?

    on March 22, 2013 @ 1:13 pm. Reply
  21. KyleK says

    Ok, let’s be positive:

    I’m positive if they made entry, got upstairs, pulled some ceilings, and coordinated their fire attack with timely roof ventilation, this would have been a relatively quick job. Throw in a bit of salvage work on the ground floor ( and maybe the basement?) and they should have been good-to-go. Training, experience, leadership, and strong, focused incident command are key.

    on March 22, 2013 @ 1:43 pm. Reply
  22. DONNIEG says

    THIS IS A JOKE–THIS CLOWN COULD HAVE STAYED HOME AND DONE JUST AS MUCH GOOD!!

    on March 22, 2013 @ 3:09 pm. Reply
  23. Anonymous says

    After watching the whole video, I guess hearing the sound of a primer for the pump buzzing away, [just as Joe was walking by him], and seeing a charged supply line on the ground coming from the hydrant, doesn’t really seem all that out of place when put into the grand scheme of the video.

    on March 24, 2013 @ 3:45 pm. Reply
  24. Getrea says

    Typical upstate NY vollie hobbyists. Brand new gear, brand new top of the line apparatus, massive firehouses and little to no oversight. How about some actual firefighters who fight fire, not stand outside and spray water on what appears to be a very workable job.

    on March 24, 2013 @ 3:49 pm. Reply
  25. LT from Northern NY says

    You guys must be really really good at this. Terrible to comment when given one piece of video. from obvious rookie who showed up late. Never saw sides c and d. Where was this home? Water supply? Manpower? Fire Load? Location of Fire? You Never see interior attack nor attic operations. How do you comment when you don’t get all information. Primer sound could be from a dry pump? Was charged supply line on ground to that pump? KyleK, show me in video how you know if interior operation was not going on. Was entry made from rear of house?? directly to the second floor. Kyle, you sure you can pull the ceiling?? Are you sure attic floor had not been recently remodeled with flooring making it impossible to get to attic from below? Are any of you sure there are stairs to the attic?? Im all for comments, when they lead to something positive, but not one of you has a clue what was going on at that scene from this video. Retired Captain from NJ: One attack in front, exterior X2?? Was anything being done on C and d sides? What else DIDNT you see in this video. How many guys were working on second floor with lines from engine in the back?? What was attic layout?? Was it accessible? What was in attic?? All of you are pathetic, sound like you have a clue. REALLY.? I learned along time ago to get all the info first. Karma is a B–ch!

    on March 25, 2013 @ 4:30 pm. Reply
  26. LT from Northern NY says

    Please share your list of questions. I have some for you?
    Was interior attack happening from c or d sides you never see? Water supply? Location of home? Time and day of week? Fire load in attic? Attic accessible? Layout of attic? Show me in video where attic stairs are? Please!? Was home owner a hoarder? Can you move inside home? Available manpower at first arrival? Manpower and attack lines on second floor and attic level? Was attic recently remodeled with interior heat pump units in attic, that has natural gas supply to them? Was attic sub divided into multiple closet spaces for tenants? Were most of the people outside from this district or mutual aid? Were any outside people junior FF or rookies with no interior experience? Rookies with no live fire except for training?
    Because before you give me your list, you answers these from this video!!!!!

    on March 25, 2013 @ 5:00 pm. Reply
  27. cbj says

    Sorry northern lt but personally I cannot answer THOSE questions. However what we DO see besides the aimless wandering of one Jake shows plenty more to be concerned with. My comment about it being ‘painful to watch’ stands for all that is visible. Clueless ladder handling and little cohesive effort. The things we do see clearly indicate a need for serious training on the simple basics. Personally I am familiar with this area.

    on March 29, 2013 @ 8:33 pm. Reply

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