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So what do you think of this? TV investigative reporter uses hidden camera to capture LA County assistant chief having a liquid lunch.

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FirefighterCloseCalls.com brought this story to my attention. It’s about a Los Angeles County Fire Department assistant chief who is now under investigation because a TV news reporter says he caught the chief drinking on the job. It’s another reminder that cameras are everywhere.

In this case, I am very interested in the back story that I didn’t find mentioned. What prompted the reporter to do this? One would guess a tip came in from a colleague or possibly someone at the restaurant.

When I was in the news business, I always looked at the real need for a hidden camera (I will admit it usually made me feel a bit sleazy in the few times I used it). What is it going to get that I can’t get with a camera out in the open? What is the value of the story that it would help capture? What wrong are we going to help right by going this route?

I also felt similarly about ambush interviews and tried to do them only when there was no other way to get a public official to talk. 

Now to the alcohol issue. Based on a story I posted on STATter911.com years ago about firefighters and drinking, I think I know what the reaction to this story is going to be and how it will be divided (if you have seen any of my presentations, you may know this answer). But I am curious if anything has changed since then. Let me know your thoughts on this story. Don’t be shy.

KCBS-TV:

Investigative reporter David Goldstein caught a high-ranking employee of LA County Fire allegedly drinking on the job.

Goldstein’s hidden cameras captured Vic Mesrobian, an assistant chief of County Fire’s information management department, drive off in a county fire vehicle and drink beer while on duty during lunch.

His formal title, Information Technology Manager, is a civilian position that pays $124,421.48 a year in taxpayer money.

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New Jersey chief orders bars closed at two firehouses. Comes after member’s DUI crash in parking lot.

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From River Edge Fire Department website.

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Other recent firehouse bar stories: Lodi, NJ, Hillsdale, NJ, Yuma County, CO

In the last year we’ve run a number of stories about controversy surrounding firehouse bars. Some of those fire companies were in New Jersey. Now comes word that Chief John Mauthe of the River Edge Fire Department in River Edge, New Jersey (Bergen County) has ordered the closing of the bars at both of the borough’s firehouses.

According to Chris Harris at The Record, 50-year-old Joseph Cerciello, a volunteer firefighter, was arrested on a DUI charge after his vehicle had a minor wreck with a car in the parking lot of Company 1 earlier this month. River Edge Mayor Sandy Moscaritolo told Harris that Cerciello had not been drinking inside the firehouse before the arrest, but because the crash occurred on borough property, the chief gave the order to ban alcohol.

Here are excerpts from The Record article via NewJersey.com:

The action comes several months after a female firefighter was arrested in the borough for an alcohol-related offense, officials said, though they cautioned that the two incidents are not related.

Mauthe’s decision follows last month’s move by the Lodi Council to introduce a strict ordinance restricting alcoholic beverages in firehouses. Officials were not only worried about underage volunteers having access to alcohol but indicated a desire to control what happens inside the borough-owned firehouses.

And a Hillsdale councilman resigned in May after remarks he made about drinking firefighters caused an outcry within the borough’s Fire Department.

“It’s a serious situation when a volunteer firefighter shows up at a company, maybe under the influence,” the mayor said. “There could have been a fire call.”

Public pressure forces removal of beer at Colorado firehouse. Former firefighter tells reporter ‘people have showed up visibly impaired’ at fires.

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Last week’s stories on controvesy over Hillsdale, NJ firehouse bar here & here

When we brought you the stories last week about the controversy over alcohol inside New Jersey’s Hillsdale VFD many commented that bars in firehouse is really just an issue in the Northeast portion of the country. But this story is from Yuma County, Colorado and involves the long time practice of having kegs of beer stocked inside the Wauneta Volunteer Fire Department for use by the firefighters.

In New Jersey, the fire department prevailed after a city councilman/fire commissioner expressed concerns in a public meeting about the liability of firefighters drinking. The bar remains and the councilman is gone.

In Colorado, a couple who had been involved with the department and originally purchased the kegs years ago, won the battle. With the help of a Denver TV station, Dean and Sue Jarrett were able to get the leaders of the department to back down and reverse the policy of having beer in the firehouse and allowing firefighters to drink at meetings and after calls.

Dean Jarrett, who had been a 28-year member and treasurer of WVFD, told KCNC-TV investigative reporter Brian Maass, that his position on this changed when he saw volunteers drinking during a CPR class at the firehouse. Jarrett also told Maass, “Without a doubt, people have showed up visibly impaired (at fires)”.

Sue Jarrett, who made it clear she was going to fight this over the long haul, told the reporter, “And they have taken something admirable and they’ve turned it into their own personal man cave. We’re going to do what we want. Leave us alone. And they are putting people in jeopardy.”

Despite the board voting unanimously on May 7 to remove the kegs, as in Hillsdale, New Jersey, there are a lot of people who didn’t have a big problem with beer for firefighters. Among them Fire Chief Jeff Gallegos. Here’s some of what he said to the TV station:

“I don’t have a big problem with it. If we’ve had a few beers we’re not going to jump on the truck and drive it. I don’t think we have that big an issue. People don’t feel we should be told what we can and can’t do when we’re volunteering our time.”

And the policy had support from top elected officials:

State Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray, who represents the area, contacted CBS4 to say he had no problem with kegs in the firehouse noting that the nearest liquor stores are in Wray, 15 miles away, making it difficult for firefighters to pick up beers after they’ve been out on a call, especially if its late at night after the liquor stores have closed.

Brophy called Jarrett and his wife “professional cranks” who had alienated the community for years. 

The TV station also contacted Ron Graton, Executive Director of the Colorado State Fire Fighters Association, who seemed to stake out some middle ground on the issue:

“We feel that having alcohol in the fire station is an issue of local control. We do feel it leads to many issues that complicate the fire fighting aspect.”

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Now the rest of the story: Articles make clear Hillsdale, NJ firehouse bar policy. Councilman who quit claims he observed drinking at fire department meetings.

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From Hillsdale VFD website.

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It has taken at least five news articles over two weeks but finally someone is providing key information and asking important questions in connection with the comments about firefighters drinking made by a now former councilmember in the Borough of Hillsdale, New Jersey. Late yesterday two articles confirmed what many of us were reading between the lines, but couldn’t say for sure: the Hillsdale VFD has a bar (something the department says is not a secret); there is a policy for the bar’s use; the councilmember had a reason for making his remarks.

If you missed our story yesterday, Councilman Rod Capawana, who was also fire commissioner, resigned after making comments at a meeting last week during a report about the fire department that firefighters had been doing “a lot of training and a lot of drinking”. The leadership of the department and firefighters were outraged over Capawana’s remarks and had taken a no confidence vote against Capawana.

In a NorthJersey.com article by Pascack Valley Community Life’s Kimberly Redmond, we learn just how upset firefighters were. They showed up at Tuesday’s council meeting blasting Capawana. And they let other council members, including two firefighters and a firefighter’s wife, know how displeased they were that no one stood up to defend them. They also thought the report on the department should have included all of the work the firefighters had been doing.

Capawana was not at that meeting, but the same day had sent a letter to Chief Mark Durst explaining his May 1 comment:

He wrote, “While attending Fire Department meetings, I observed the consumption of alcoholic beverages. If an emergency call had come in during any of these times and something unforeseen occur, with alcohol being a factor, the liability to the town as well as any individual who knew drinking takes place at the Fire Department, would be considered gross negligence.”

The councilman wrote that he believes his statement was “honest and direct,” but admitted it was “perhaps insensitive to the feelings of the Fire Department.”

In a second NorthJersey.com article, this one by Chris Harris of The Record, the former councilman said his remarks were misunderstood and that he respects the firefighters as heroes who go into burning buildings. This is the article that finally mentions the bar and the drinking policy:

“[The firefighters] missed the point I was trying to make,” Capawana said, adding that there is a bar inside Hillsdale’s firehouse. “I raised the question of whether it is appropriate to drink at training sessions and regular meetings. I questioned that and I questioned the liability Hillsdale would face if firefighters responded to a call at that time.”

Deputy Chief Jason Durie said Wednesday that  the fire department “does not allow drinking during training sessions or any public forum meetings.”

“It is used for special events and fundraisers and is kept locked at all times when not in use,” the statement read. “The Hillsdale Volunteer Fire Department remains committed to maintaining a professional working relationship with the mayor and council, including whoever is appointed to the newly vacated fire commissioner’s position.”

I think that it’s good the fire department made its policy clear. But after reading everything, I’m still left with the same thought I had yesterday. Is it really that outrageous the public or politicians are making firefighter booze comments when you have a bar inside the firehouse?

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Hillsdale, NJ councilmember resigns after saying firefighters ‘do a lot of drinking’. News coverage doesn’t say anything about firehouse alcohol policy.

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From Hillsdale VFD website.

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There is an interesting story from the Borough of Hillsdale, New Jersey (Bergen County) where around noon today freshman Councilman Joseph “Rod” Capawana, who was also the borough fire commissioner, resigned over a comment he made during a council meeting last week. His comment on May 1 about the drinking habits of firefighters from the Hillsdale Volunteer Fire Department angered members of the department.

From Kimberly Redmond at NorthJersey.com:

According to (Mayor Max) Arnowitz, during Capawana’s monthly fire department report, the councilman remarked, “They’re [firefighters] doing a lot of training and a lot of drinking” at the firehouse.”

Jerry Demarco’s article in the Cliffview Pilot last Wednesday had the same quote (recorded from the council TV broadcast) and talked to firefighters who made it clear that this was not over:

“Out of thousands or man hours we put in, that’s what they say about us?” one firefighter told CLIFFVIEW PILOT Wednesday morning.

“We depend on donations from the public,” he said, “and the public is being told by its fire commissioner [Capawana] that we’re drunks?”

I am dissapointed in both reporters, because while they talked to ranking officials of the department, they never told their readers anything about the Hillsdale VFD’s alcohol policy. Seems like an obvious question after the topic is brought up by the councilmember who is the liasison to the fire department. Also, wouldn’t the fire department want to make that crystal clear so there is no future misunderstanding?

In the coverage from both papers it does give the impression that alcohol is allowed. More from NorthJersey.com:

Arnowitz said he is unsure of what prompted Capawana, the council liaison to the fire department, to make the remark, but pointed out that the councilman’s comment was preceded by a discussion on a Joint Insurance Fund (JIF) training session on “civility, harassment and liability” for all borough personnel, including the mayor and council.

“When it came up, I said ‘Let’s have it in the Borough Hall instead of across the street [at the firehouse] where there’s alcohol’,” Arnowitz recalled.

Does that mean there’s alcohol for events in the social hall or is this a firehouse with a bar for its members?

The other question I have is if you allow alcohol at the firehouse, can you really be that upset about the impression or misimpression it leaves on political leaders and the public?

Is that a fair question or do I just not get it?

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Another shake up in DeKalb County, Georgia. Demotions & a retirement as ice storm drinking probe wraps up.

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Troubles a year ago in DeKalb County

An assistant chief is one of four DeKalb County, Georgia firefighters demoted after an investigation into drinking or being intoxicated on duty during a major ice storm in January. It is a rather complicated and detailed story about various roles investigators say the firefighters played in this latest black eye for the DeKalb County Fire Rescue.

It was a little more than a year ago that the department was dealing with bad publicity surrounding a fire call to an elderly woman’s home. Ann Bartlett died in her burning when firefighters failed to properly respond to her initial 911 call. The fire chief and a number of firefighters and officers lost their jobs during that investigation. With the exception of Chief David Foster most everyone was ordered reinstated to the department.

Here are some excerpts from AJC.com on the latest issue. You will get significantly more detail by reading the entire story:

On Tuesday, Fire Chief Eddie O’Brien announced that Assistant Chief Joseph Tinsley had been reduced in rank to captain despite a month-long investigation that exonerated him, but the chief refused to say why. It was determined that Tinsley drank at Twain’s Billiards & Tap in Decatur with the disciplined firefighters.

Capt. Marcus Reed was demoted two ranks to a firefighter level 2 because his own admission proved his level of intoxication, an investigatory report said. Fire Apparatus Operator William Corbett and Firefighter Joshua Crawford were demoted because they possessed alcohol at Fire Station 24.

O’Brien emphasized that the investigation found no evidence that the firefighters went on any calls while inebriated. He said the intoxicated men reported to the fire station the night before they went on duty intending to sleep off the effects of their drinking.

“They’re all sincere in apologizing to the department, to the county and to the citizens,” O’Brien said. “They didn’t just let me down. They let everybody down.”

Quick Takes

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The Capital Beltway on a Tuesday morning: From I-495 between University Boulevard and New Hampshire Avenue in Montgomery County this morning. Still  images here thanks to Emily Cyr at WUSA9.com.

Some must listen to fireground audio: This is from the house fire Sunday morning in Buffalo where six people were trapped. We have the dramatic fireground audio and interviews with the firefighters. Check it out. We have also links to video and pictures from the scene.

“[The suburbs] do an exterior attack. That’s why they lose most of their buildings. If we stood back and put water on, we’d feel like we weren’t doing anything”:  That quote is causing quite a bit of controversy in the Chicago area.  The discussion of the “Chicago way” by members of Engne 106 is part of a column by Neil Steinberg in the Sun-Times. There are a number of comments attached to the story that give a good sense of what we have also seen in emails floating around. Here is the story and the reaction.

More details on water problems at Maryland house fire that left eight firefighters hurt: The hydrant that couldn’t be pumped during the initial stages of the house fire in University Park on Sunday night tested fine. PGFD’s Mark Brady says it took three attempts and five to seven minutes to get water from the plug. Click here for the details.

An explanation on water problems at Ohio fire: Video from a neighbor and lots of questions from a reporter seem to have gotten to the bottom of water issues at a Westerville, Ohio house fire on Saturday. Watch the video and read more.

Firegeezer on fire: He’s got lots of good stuff. Click here and scroll down. Make sure you check the pictures and video from the multi-alarm fire in East Hartford.

Status of former Maryland assistant chief changed from fired to retired: You may recall the story of Greg DeHaven, a Montgomery County Fire & Rescue Service assistant chief who was fired after he crashed the county vehicle into a bunch of cars and a police car on I-270. He is no longer in the “fired” status. Read more.

It isn’t just us who had a busy weekend: Fire season is clearly here. Our friends at NewsWorking.org in Northeastern Pennsylvania shot lots of video. The one above is of the boarding house fire in Stroudsburg. Firegeezer has more details on the fire. NewsWorking.org also has video from a two-alarm house fire in LowHill Township and a two-alarm house fire in Allentown.