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Publishing of radio traffic from NY LODD creates controversy. Owego FD encourages boycott of local paper.

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In a post on its Facebook page today, New York’s Owego Fire Department is encouraging people to write the editor of the Press & Sun Bulletin to pull down an article by reporter David Robinson posted last night on the paper’s website yesterday that includes fire department radio traffic from a house fire that took the life of Capt. Matthew J. Porcari. It also encourages people to cancel their subscription to the local Gannett paper and to encourage advertisers to pull their ads from the publication. The message concludes with these words, “Please do what you can to help get this heartless and ‘shock value’ article off of the web forever!!!”.

 

As is made mention in the Facebook posting, the article comes two days before a delayed private burial for Capt. Porcari.

The paper reports it received the recording through “Freedom of Information Law”. Here’s an excerpt from the article:

From a struggle to supply enough water to aid firefighters to a harrowing rescue attempt that left multiple people injured, the recordings, obtained under Freedom of Information Law, detail the series of events that unfolded that frigid night.

Fire and law enforcement officials later determined a lighting apparatus in a small shed near the one-story home caused the fire, which they ruled accidental.

Here is an account of the emergency response based on dispatch records, along with a Tioga County Fire Investigation Team report and other details provided by county officials in news releases and during interviews.

As of this writing there are 45 comments with the article and 17 more on the paper’s Facebook page. That I can see, all of them are extremely negative about the decision to publish the article and the recording. Most of the comments are much more pointed than the original post from the Owego Fire Department. Most, like the Owego Fire Department’s Facebook message, express concern about the impact on Captain Porcari’s family and fellow firefighters. It should also be noted that at least 342 people recommended the article.

Before I go any further, let me state clearly a few things about STATter911.com. My goal with this site is to put in front of those who read STATter911.com information that is already in the public domain (almost always from the Internet and social media) about important issues, significant events and daily emergencies related to fire and EMS. Since leaving the television news business three-years-ago, I am no longer a reporter who originates the material, whether it be documents, information from anonymous sources, or audio recordings of radio traffic. But if it is on the web and I think there is something to learn from it, or could make for an interesting discussion, I often will post it. In fact, that is the main reason for providing the information about this controversy. I think there is a lot to learn from it and some important issues fire departments need to think about ahead of time.

As you know, this site and almost every other fire and EMS website you are familiar with has posted emergency radio traffic from significant fires, including ones where there have been line-of-duty-deaths. Many times these recordings are posted within a few hours of the event. While again, we aren’t the originators of the radio traffic recordings, the digital age has made it very easy for the recordings to be almost instantly published on the web, by virtually anyone. In addition, the radio traffic for thousands of fire departments can be heard live on the Internet thanks to sites like Broadcastify.com. Those recordings are then immediately available for members of the radio service to turn around and post on YouTube and elsewhere. I am not a member, but people who are, often communicate with me and other fire service site webmasters, notifying us that these recordings have been posted and are available.

My personal philosophy is that more information is generally better than less information. That said, on a number of occasions, I have delayed in posting radio traffic recordings that were available based on my own personal standard. Depending on the situation, the reasons have included the identity of an injured or deceased firefighter had not yet been made public, the recording included the final words of a firefighter, or the airing of the recording could have impacted an ongoing event. An example of the last case is, that while it had been made public, I held off on posting the initial radio traffic of Georgia firefighters making the notification they had been taken hostage until that situation was resolved.

In the New York fire there apparently was no such recording made available on the web. Instead, the newspaper went through long established channels on obtaining public records to get the recording.  That I can see, no one is claiming the paper did anything illegal or sneaky in getting the recordings. As a strong believer in the First Amendment, I fully support the paper’s right to do so and at the same time I fully support the community’s right to give them hell for doing it.

And “community” may be an important part of this controversy. Every community is different. I’ve been posting radio traffic from line-of-duty-deaths and incidents where firefighters have been injured on this site for almost six-years. Some of the radio transmissions were much more graphic than what is on the New York recording (think of Kyle Wilson’s last words from Prince William County, VA). Despite the scores, if not hundreds, of radio traffic recordings I’ve posted, I’ve never received anything near the outpouring of emotion and criticism that is directed toward the Press and Sun Bulletin. Yes, there are occasionally one or two people who think the recordings should be taken down immediately. But it’s a fact of life, that almost anything posted, offends someone. This includes routine house fire videos that offend homeowners. If I were to take down everything that someone finds offensive, I might as well shut down the whole site.

I can tell by the statistics from YouTube and my own site that these recordings of radio traffic are extremely popular among firefighters. But nothing comes without a cost. There is no doubt that, the instant release of the radio traffic puts increased pressure and possible scrutiny on the department involved. Even with a delay of many months, the recordings will have an impact that fire departments need to prepare for.

Here are some questions for you to consider, based on the controversy in New York:

  • Is it realistic for a fire department to think something that is considered a public record should not be released because of concerns about the personal feelings of the survivors of an incident?
  • Should a news organization only publish recordings and/or information after an official investigation is completed?
  • Should a news organization be allowed to conduct its own investigation of an incident?
  • Is a fire department line-of-duty-death fair game for a reporter to probe?
  • Do we really want the press to make decisions based on potential emotional impact or to just put on the record the facts they have discovered regardless of who might be hurt?
  • Whose standard of what’s offensive should rule the day, the newspaper’s, the fire department’s or the community’s?
  • Do you think any fire department radio traffic recordings should be allowed to be published on the Internet? If only certain ones, which ones? Who decides?
  • Should the fire department be the leader of a boycott of news organizations it finds offensive?
  • When you do publicly protest should you be worried you bring more attention to what you want everyone to ignore?

I look forward to the discussion.

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UPDATED with radio traffic – Double mayday in Delaware: First hand account from injured firefighter after floor collapse at Brandywine Hundred house fire.

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About 16 hours after the floor of a home collapsed in Tioga County, New York, killing Owego Fire Department Captain Matthew Porcari and injuring Lt. Daniel Gavin, two other firefighters found themselves in a similar situation. This time it was in Brandywine Hundred, Delaware and fortunately the outcome was very different.

Talleyville Fire Company Career Firefighter/EMT Kyle Rice and Brandywine Hundred Fire Company Career Firefighter/EMT Kyle Sweetman are at home recovering from relatively minor injuries after falling from the first floor into the basement during a fire yesterday at a home on Weldin Road. The firefighters fell one after the other at two different locations in the house and both called maydays.

Kyle Rice responded to well wishers on his Facebook page with an account of his ordeal. He has given permission for us to reprint it here:

Thank you everyone for all the texts, phone calls, messages and posts today It means a lot. I have been asked to recall what happened about 100 times today and am sure that it will only increase more over the next few days so I would like to post it here and make it easier for everyone. I will probably re-post it tomorrow also at some point.

Today I experienced something that I have heard about… countless times but never really thought it would happen to me.  
 
Talleyville Fire Company Firefighter/EMT Kyle Rice. 
While operating at a working residential house fire I was on the first due rescue truck, preforming the primary search for anyone trapped in the house due to the fire and smoke. While preforming the search, the floor I was on suddenly collapsed beneath me. I fell approximately 10 feet flat on my face into the basement with all ( it at least felt like it) the debris and flooring falling on top of me. I had no idea that I had fallen that far, thinking I was just clumsy and fell over a small step or whatnot. I was facedown on the basement floor unable to move my legs due to debris on top of me, I was able to free my right leg but not my left and ended up pulling my foot out of my boot to free it. My SCBA (Breathing apparatus we wear into fires) was entrapped and I was forced to remove it while still breathing its air, free it and my self, then put it back on.
 
I called a mayday at some point that I can’t remember exactly when. I tried to move around the basement to find a way to orient myself to find a way out but due to the debris and fire around me I was very limited on what direction I could move in. I was able to find the basement stairs and started to make my way up them, sans left boot and my axe I lost, I got to the top of the steps fully expecting to make my way out only to find the floor the stairs led to had also collapsed in all directions I could see. I was running out of air at this point and called mayday again, I think, to inform them I needed to be removed asap as I was out of clean air. I laid flat on the steps and started to “suck floor” while trying to breach the wall next to me to get out with little progress. During this process I was only worried when I ran out of air, I KNEW that every person on that scene was doing everything they could to find and remove me, and the other fire fighter who had fallen through a different part of floor no where near me. I could hear Eric Haley “Ceaser” yelling from someplace. I knew with absolute certainty that he would let that house fall down on his head before he left ANYONE behind, and because of that I KNEW I was going to get out along with him and everyone working to find and get us out. They did find me, beating away at the wall, and were able to pull me over a couch and partially through the wall I was taking down to get me out. I was pulled out and taking to the hospital, I have 2nd degree burns to my ears along with 1st degree to my face and some sun burn ish minor stuff also. I know I am lucky and my injuries are more then an annoyance then anything else.
 
What I was able to do today, how I was able to react was a direct reflection on the better men that trained me to do exactly what I did, Career and Volunteer alike how to think, fight and survive in the worst possible conditions. Today I experienced something that I never thought would happen to me.. today my life was saved by others, brothers, who would have given theirs to help me keep mine as I would for any of them. Thank you to those that trained me, and thank you to those who trained with me for days exactly like this one.
Firefighter Rice says besides acknowledging Claymont Fire Company Chief Eric Haley, that he was brought to safety by three members of his department, Chief Tom Looney, Deputy Chief Jason Stiebel and Firefighter/EMT Bobby Lynch (who is a career firefighter at Talleyville with Kyle Rice).

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PM UPDATE with new details: Owego (NY) FD reports Capt. Matthew Porcari killed & Lt. Daniel Gavin injured after floor collapse at house fire.

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UPDATE 5:33 PM EST:

On it’s Facebook page the Owego Fire Department reports that Lt. Daniel Gavin has been released from the hospital. There was an afternoon briefing with more details about what occurred at the house fire in Chamberlain Road. Here is an excerpt from the latest article by Debbie Swartz at PressConnects.com:

Several teams had entered the burning home on Chamberlain Road late Monday before Capt. Matthew J. Porcari and Lt. Daniel G. Gavin took their turn.

But it was when they were in there that the home’s floor gave way — causing Porcari to fall several feet into the basement where he suffered fatal injuries. Gavin, who suffered from burns, fell partially through the floor but was able to pull himself free before going back in to save his partner, fire officials said today during a news conference.

 

Porcari, a captain with Owego Fire Co. 3, is survived by his wife, Christina, an 11-year-old daughter and a 9-year-old son, Owego Deputy Chief Bob Williams said.

From Owego FD Facebook page: Captain Matthew Porcari, center, and Firefighter Daniel Gavin, far right, while in Long Island in November assisting with the Hurricane Sandy relief effort.

From Owego Fire Department Facebook page at 9:27 AM:

It is with great sadness and heavy hearts that the Owego Fire Department announces the Line of Duty Death of Captain Matthew Porcari while battling a house fire last night. Injured in the blaze was Firefighter Daniel Gavin, who was transported to a local hospital and then transferred to the burn unit at Upstate Medical in Syracuse NY. All of our thoughts and prayers are with the Porcari and Gavin families in this tragic time.

 

 

Picture of Captain Matthew Porcari’s gear from Owego FD Facebook page.

YNN:

Owego Deputy Fire Chief Bob Williams said Owego firefighters Matthew Porcari and Daniel Gavin were in the building when the floor collapsed. Porcari died in the fire. Gavin was taken to Wilson Hospital with burns before being transferred to Upstate University Hospital in Syracuse.  

Video from 2011 that includes Capt. Porcari and Lt. Gavin.

WBNG-TV:

The fire was reported just before 11 p.m. at 871 Chamberlain Rd. in Newark Valley, according to Tioga County emergency communications.

At 12:10 a.m., Newark Valley called for all available crews from Campville. Newark Valley, Berkshire, Maine and Owego fire departments were also on the scene. Union Center was called later in the morning.

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Raw video & raw feelings: New video from the PA tanker fire that fueled many comments & the ire of the videographer.

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Watch early video and read comments about this fire

This is apparently video shot a little earlier than the previous one we shared with you from Friday’s tanker crash and burn near Liberty Township, Pennsylvania (Tioga County). That video, posted here very early Sunday morning, and this video, were taken by Lonny Frost, who appears to shoot and report a fair amount of fire activity and other news in the region.

From remarks via Facebook on STATter911.com and with this video, Lonny Frost is not happy with some of the comments made by our KICs (keyboard incident commanders). Here’s what he wrote on Facebook:

I cannot believe people like all you putting down departments after viewing a 6 minute video clip that was taken some time after the tanker crash and fire.  How rude to think all you are better qualified than anyone from Tioga County.  Look into the facts of our county’s emergency workers, the hours, training and how many lives they have saved.  Ignorance is all I am reading on this STAT911.   A bunch of firemen sitting around bashing another before they even know what agency is already on scene and focusing on one firefighter, whom many of you believe is not doing his job correctly.  Again that is your opinion.  I dont mind comments or suggestions, but when did other firemen tear others apart?  I thought there was a botherhood in firefighting.  You are there to give advice, point out o ther possible solutions in future cases like the one you are negatively attacking.  That fireman was never in any dange, to himself or others.  Had anyone been in the “wrong” they would of been comfronted and removed. I have seen many of these companies save lives from situations others would not even enter.  How aweful to have such ruthless and invaluable comments.  Thanks for sharing your ignorance with your fellow self righteous critics.

For a while after this comment the video in question was made “private” on YouTube. As of this writing it’s back up.

With the posting of this latest video, Lonny Frost added these comments to the description on YouTube:

If you are going to write mean spirited comments about the volunteer fire departments, I will simply block you.  If you want to post suggestions or polite informative statements or comments please do so. As a correspondent reporter these clips are posted to let local people see a glimspe of what occured.  It is not for some of you to use to bash me or the firemen & women who volunteer to help those in our county. 

Lonny Frost is far from alone in criticizing the comments that are posted on STATter911.com or even criticizing me for providing this forum. There are a lot of people who feel this way. I understand why they feel the way they do. I even respect such opinions and don’t take any criticism of the comments on this site, the site itself or of me personally. I try to learn from it all. And, by the way, if you look at what Lonny Frost is saying, even if you think he is greatly misguided, it’s hard not to note that his heart is in the right place by standing up for firefighters (that’s more than some people believe about the publisher of this rag).

I have dealt with people who are offended by the comments section since almost day one of STATter911.com more than five-years-ago. Some of the complaints came from my closest and oldest friends in the fire service. I listened to what they all had to say and made the decision to keep the comments and censor as little as possible. I continue to stand by that decision and amazingly my friends still stand by me. Not that it doesn’t cause me great pain at times when I see personal bashing and comments that are more vindictive than constructive. To me, the forum works best when there is an adult discussion of issues and tactics with the egos left at the door (I know … I’m a dreamer).

In this particular incident in Tioga County, the comments came in rather fast and furious. The overall theme was one questioning what many believe are serious safety issues with this operation. While some said it more nicely than others, the comments almost all were about the same concerns.

As regular readers know I leave all of the commenting about firegound tactics and safety issues to others. But I do have some general observations about all of this.

First of all, I believe it would be nicer and more civilized if we could just tell people directly our concerns in a more private way. But the cameras everywhere, digital nature of life in the 2000s seems to have changed that dynamic forever. It isn’t just the fire service. In almost everything today we all have to deal with the instant analysis of our actions, whether it’s because of something we innocently wrote on Facebook or the video our neighbor took of us walking around our backyard in our underwear.

Taking that as a given, I’m left with this statement from Lonny Frost: “I thought there was a botherhood in firefighting.” Others (apparently firefighters) have said the same thing about some of the comments with the New Jersey ambulance fire video this weekend. This issue of “brotherhood” has long been brought up by those offended by the comments section.

The question I toss out to the crowd is this: Are you being more of a “brother” by not pointing out an important safety lapse in one of these videos so you won’t hurt that brother’s feelings or is brotherhood making your thoughts clear on an actions you see that could injure or kill your brother firefighters?

Early video: Crash & burn of tanker carrying diesel fuel in Tioga County, PA.

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Video from  on YouTube of a tanker truck crash and fire around 9:30 AM Friday on Route 15 near Liberty Township (Tioga County), Pennsylvania.

Cheryl R. Clarke, SunGazette.com:

According to state police, Jeffrey D. Krout, 27, of Wellsboro, was traveling south in a fully loaded 2005 Peterbilt fuel tanker in the right lane, when he served across the left lane and onto the shoulder of the road.

The truck, which was carrying about 4,600 gallons of diesel fuel, then swerved back across both lanes of travel, left the roadway, traveled onto the right side berm and overturned.

Krout extricated himself from the vehicle just before it caught fire.

The Wellsboro Gazette:

Krout reportedly sustained a minor leg injury and he refused medical treatment. Krout will reportedly be charged with careless driving and rollover violations of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code.

PennDOT members were diligent in not allowing anyone near the scene of the crash, including members of the media. By the time a Wellsboro Gazette reporter could get near the scene, the truck and burnt wreckage were being towed away. 

Dash-cam: House fire in Tioga County, Pennsylvania.

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Here’s the caption with this video:

Tioga County PA, Lawrenceville Engine 8-3 responding to a working house fire on Burrows Hollow Road in Jackson Township on 03/16/2012.

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