Paramedic Maurice White Jr. says Trooper Daniel Martin’s badge and gun should be taken away. Watch the interview.

“But once confronted with the situation,” White said, “there was no way with the patient and the unit, could I allow my driver to spend 20 minutes with the trooper discussing a possible ticket.”

White told Rodriguez Martin was in “a state of rage from the beginning.”

“And even after being informed that we had a patient,” White said, “there was total disregard. So he started in a state of rage and simply escalated from that point.”

White added he repeatedly told the trooper he had a patient in the ambulance, and the patient’s family members also joined in, saying that their relative needed to get to the hospital.

White said he would like to see the trooper fired. White told Rodriguez that based on statements, Martin and his superiors don’t think Martin did anything wrong.

“This trooper still doesn’t understand he’s not omnipotent,” O’Carroll told CBS News. “He could no more tell Maurice to stop taking a woman to hospital than he could tell a pilot to run a jetliner into the ocean.”

O’Carroll told CBS News they are awaiting the patrol chief’s ruling before deciding whether to take legal action.

White said, “This gentleman needs to have his ability to carry a gun and a badge taken away so no other individual, and particularly a patient, has to go through this.”

But Martin’s attorney said the trooper — whom he described as a decorated sailor and a 15-year law enforcement veteran — didn’t realize there was a patient in the ambulance until well after the situation had intensified. He either didn’t hear it or it didn’t register, he said.

Martin was trying to make a legitimate traffic stop, James said, when White became hostile, refused to comply with the patrolman’s orders and caused the situation to spiral out of control.

James said the law allows an officer to pull over an ambulance if its emergency lights and sirens aren’t running, as was the case in this incident.

But White said on The Early Show it was for the patient’s benefit that the sirens weren’t on.

“It’s common practice,” White told Rodriguez. ” … The patient actually had a fainting episode with chest pain. And it’s common practice not to run lights and sirens with those type patients. It really exacerbates their situation.”

O’Carroll said the veteran paramedic was trying to protect his patient and that the trooper had no reason to stop the ambulance, let alone try and arrest White. The trooper’s arms were bruised when White resisted arrest, James said.